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David Irving responds

1) Do you think you were unjustly treated in your trials?

Answer: The Lipstadt trial,
2000
: Read my short diary of the trial with comments that may assist; it is a pdf file.

I have also written an extensive chapter or chapters on the Lipstadt Trial for my memoirs.
Still in handwriting. In these, I state that the
Judge, Sir Charles Gray, was in my view wrong on several important matters:

  • (a)
    Sir Charles Gray (right) allowed the Defence
    lawyers to submit an amended defence only a few
    days before the trial began, in which the entire
    axis of the defence was changed; it involved
    dumping on me a score of ring binders with
    expert statements and documents and exhibits in
    the days around Christmas 1999, with the trial
    beginning

    on January 13, 2000. Being a litigant
    in person, with no vast legal team behind me, I
    could not possibly master these new papers in
    time. It is my own fault that I did not protest
    at the trial management hearing on this issue,
    but I could not at that time anticipate the
    deluge of files, tens of thousands of pages of
    documents, which began after he ruled the new
    defence permissible.

    Mr Justice Gray should have
    ruled that either (i) the defence has had three
    and a half years to prepare the trial, and a
    last minute change of defence is not permitted;
    or that (ii) the plaintiff should apply for the
    trial date to be adjourned (which the Court
    could not easily have done, as the Judge had by
    then read all the files, and courtroom space had
    been booked and the expert witnesses were
    already flying in).

  • (b) Gray J later called the “fees” paid to
    the six expert witnesses,

    some of them getting
    over a quarter of a million dollars, “obscene”.
    I agree. How can any witness remain neutral in
    the face of such inducements? (See this
    website
    for the interim payments made to the
    witnesses.)

  • (c) Gray J allowed the Dutch/Canadian expert
    witness Professor
    Robert Jan Van Pelt
    to give testimony on
    the architecture of Auschwitz and other sites,
    although in my opening cross examination

    I
    elicited the confession that Pelt had never
    studied architecture
    and was not even
    allowed to call himself an architect in
    consequence; Gray J further allowed Pelt to give
    expert testimony on matters far beyond his ken
    including pest control, toxicology, document
    authentication, and the German language;
    moreover, Pelt and all the other expert
    witnesses were no longer neutral, as the
    rules require,

    because they had all signed book
    deals (which Pelt
    denied under my cross examination, on oath:
    i.e., he perjured himself); Professor Richard
    J “Skunky” Evans
    (right) perjured
    himself too, denying explicitly that he bore any
    ill feeling toward me (now read his book on this
    same topic!)

    Evans was clearly not an expert on
    the Third Reich either, his knowledge of
    colloquial and modern German, and of the top
    Nazi personalities, was very patchy.

  • (d) I argued in my opening
    submissions to Gray J that the court should
    concern itself not with what happened or did not
    happen sixty years ago, but with what happened
    within the four walls of my study when I was
    writing my books: did I have documents before me
    which I willfully ignored or deliberately
    misconstrued when writing my

    various books? It
    is not an abstruse point at all, and Gray J
    nodded sagely, but he still allowed the trial to
    develop into an examination of the history of
    the Holocaust — with the absurd result that I
    found myself, although I had never proclaimed
    myself to be an Holocaust historian, being
    cross-examined on documents that the defence had
    brought into court that morning and I had never
    seen before: why?

    And why did the Court tolerate
    it?

  • (e) Most damaging of all: although in her
    book Lipstadt had never imputed either
    anti-semitism or racism to me, and the two
    issues had consequently not been pleaded, large
    parts of the defence turned on these
    allegations: grossly prejudicial and totally
    irrelevant; her
    lawyers had managed to get all my pre-emptive
    Discovery documents proving the opposite struck
    out in the months

    before they submitted their
    amended Defence too
    ! Gray J himself
    interrupted Rampton’s
    closing statement with the hypothetical
    question, Can an anti-Semite not write true
    history?, only to ignore it in his Judgment.
    Gray J should have excluded all such prejudicial
    and deeply irrelevant arguments at a very early
    date in the trial. It is my fault that I did not
    ask the Court to do so, through inexperience.

    I
    was a litigant in person, and the Court should
    itself have ruled such issues inadmissible,
    because highly prejudicial and not originally
    pleaded. Both the Court and the Defence were
    pandering however to an increasingly hostile
    press (hostile to me, that is, because editors
    and advertising managers know on which side
    their bread is buttered).

    2) You have experienced court in a country where they have laws banning Holocaust denial. What is your opinion of these laws? Are they an affront to freedom of speech?

    Answer: I recommend that you read
    my short book on my 2005 arrest, trial and imprisonment — it is posted in English on my website.

    European law is, broadly speaking, very different from the Anglo-Saxon laws with which we and the Americans and the British Empire countries are familiar. We are innocent until proven guilty; in Europe, the
    reverse is true.

    It reached its absurd peak when I found myself ambushed by armed Austrian police on
    November 11, 2005 and indicted because of opinions I had expressed sixteen years earlier to a small audience in a Vienna restaurant, perhaps forty souls. (Twelve or less would have ruled the case out anyway, even under their laws).

    The police had attended all my Austria talks, and reported in internal documents that I had committed no offences; when the largely Jewish outcry began in the press on November 6, 2005,
    Vienna’s police president then felt he had to issue his warrant, secure perhaps in the knowledge that I was no longer on Austrian soil.

    I revisited the country three times after that, with the full knowledge of the authorities, and nothing happened. The 2005
    ambush and imprisonment cost me around half a million pounds in lost contracts, a year’s lost income, a lost home and possessions, a cancelled legacy(*), air tickets, speaking engagements and stolen cars (from London airport); it very nearly destroyed my family too. But I shall not allow this sad episode in Austrian history to rule the way I write.

    Good luck with the dissertation


    * Explanatory note, in response to inquiries: “A very nice couple in [Germany] whom I shall not name (who knows who else reads these emails), were a doctor and his wife, total strangers to me, and elderly.

    Out of the blue four years ago she wrote me enclosing the copy of a will they had made out … in my favour leaving me first their home in Munich, as they so admired me, then adding their homes in Bucharest and
    Klagenfurt too, as they wanted us to have something to fall back on if I ever grow old. I corresponded regularly with them in the interval.

    When I was in the Vienna prison I received a letter from the wife, two lines, equally out of the blue: ‘We have cancelled everything, do not ask why, do not write to us again.’ My letters since have been returned unopened.” — I presume that the malicious media mudbath had shocked them.