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on May 26, 1974. Transcribed from a tape recording. DAVID IRVING Telephone Log (Continuation Sheet 1) Date / Time Note on Conversation 26 May 1974 (Sunday) 11. 30 pm Telephoned Mr Robert A. Gutierrez [1945/46 Special Agent, chief of CIC team 970-45 at Stuttgart-Backnang] at his home, Albuquerque (505) 898 2951 . IRVING: David Irving here. GUTIERREZ: How’re you doing, David? [ . . . ] Where are you — in England? IRVING: I’m in London, yes.
I’m just telephoning to take up the matter that I mentioned in my last letter, to try and map out some kind of traveling plans for the coming weeks. My present plan is that I’m going to be in New York on the fourth and fifth of June, and then in Washington on the sixth and seventh of June, and I was wondering, do you think it would b worth my while to come down and see you that weekend? GUTIERREZ: I doubt it, I don’t have any information for you, you ‘ye probably got everything that you need.
IRVING: Did you get my last letter? (Yes.) The one about Frau [Ursula] Göhler , the one where I say that I found Frau Göhler. (Yes.) It’s very good of you to say, Not to come, because if I do come it will cost me a lot of money to come all the way from Washington down to Albuqerque again, but the — GUTIERREZ: I don’t have anything that she [Frau Göhler] doesn’t have. IRVING: What you really have is probably information.
The kind of information which the Pentagon said that you were at liberty to give me — the information about where this material will . . . was handed over to, which authority it went to. Because if I am going to start dealing with the Pentagon. which is the reason I’m going to Washington, I’m going to have to be able to tell them all the facts that I can possibly; otherwise they can’t start looking, you see. GUTIERREZ: [ Pauses ].
Well, last time you were here you had a pretty good run down on what our team did, that’s about all we did, we didn’t do anything else, we turned over everything that we had to Them, there’s nothingIRVING: Yes, but who is Them? Which actual unit? GUTIERREZ: My own unit turned it in at that time and it went to Seventh Army headquarters. Once we turned it over to Seventh Army headquarters we had nothing else to do with it. That’s about all I can tell you. IRVING: Yes.
Do you think there would be any reference to this in the records of your unit? GUTIERREZ: I don’t know — You know a lot of our teams were just dissolved in Europe and the records were turned over to Seventh Army and I don ‘t know how long they hold those records, whether they destroy them or whether they keep them, I don’t know. IRVING: I think they will have kept them.
The question is: Do you think that your own CIC team, or your own HQ, made some kind of lists of the documents that were being sent