Real History and the search for Hitler’s papers your Gutierrez dossier your Adolf Hitler index Alphabetical index (text) Extracts from David Irving’s diaries June 8, 1983 London 10:00 pm Telephoned Johannes Göhler in Stuttgart. I said I am resuming the search for the Eva Braun/Hitler papers missing since 1946, after abandoning it temporarily in December 1973. I told him of the CIC Interrogations of Konrad, Spacil and Haufler found in Washington.
He is very interested, and asked what the description of the contents of the Tropenkiste is! I read out Kornad’s handwritten description, and Göhler said that was how he knew it. He made the following points. (a) his former wife Ursula is still alive (she believed in 1973 she was dying of cancer); (b) he does not think she will help me, but he now knows that all the time he was in Internierungslager 1945–, Ursula was [ working ] with the CIC Special Agent Robert A.
Gutierrez . . . . (c) significantly, he was telephoned three weeks ago by somebody from USA, not named, asking for information on this Haufler history. He declined to assist. I asked him not to mention that Gutierrez is still alive, and he said that he would not help anybody else. (d) on Walter Hirschfeld , he said they always believed he was “einer von uns.” I said Hirschfeld is identified as ” SS Lt.” in the files. He confirmed that Konrad was hanged by the Poles.
I said to find the [ rest of entry is missing ] June 11, 1983 London Telephoned Robert Gutierrez in New Mexico for the first time since 1974. He says a Stern journalist visited him a month or two ago. Extraordinary! June 11, 1983 Muhr-Ansbach-Stuttgart-London. Caught 8:30 train to Stuttgart via Ansbach. . . Afterwards at 3 pm to see Frau Ursula Göhler , ( see Interview Note ) who was weepy and uncooperative and on two issues flatly lied to me.
Which I am rather glad about, as she now maintains she (a) never saw the Hitler letters to Eva and (b) never saw Gutierrez steal them. This contradicts what she told me in November 1973. She is bloated by cortisone but otherwise seemingly in good health, despite having cancer these last ten years. Taxi to the town afterwards and at 5:15 pm met Johannes Göhler at station who took me to the airport. Interviewed him too ( see Note ).
He confirms that it would be wrong to underestimate his ex-wife’s intelligence. June 27, 1983 London 9:15 pm Phoned Gutierrez in New Mexico. Out until tomorrow. July 1, 1983 London 00:50 am Phoned Robert A. Gutierrez in New Mexico. He says Bill Conner is in Federal Employment last he heard of him. Says I should call him “when I come over to the States.” He will find “the man who knows how to locate Conner then.” I asked what kind of government employment. He: not sure. I: Out at Mclean?
He: (non committal). Had calls from him a couple of times after that (i.e., after 1946.) August 25, 1983 London 2:30 am Telephoned Robert Gutierrez in New Mexico. He: does not want now to see me. Sounds wary and weary. Did not correspondent with Bill Conner since ca February 1946, he says, when he, Gutierrez, left Germany. Has not bothered to look for Conner’s address therefore.
I reminded him that he himself had suggested on my last call that I should plan a visit to Albuquerque into my next ititnerary. This did not move him. July 20, 1988 Washington DC. Dealt with mail backlog. Sent this letter to Ben Swearingen [one of the foremost American WWII researchers, now dead]: Dear Ben, Thank you so much for your letter of May 29.
I apologise most humbly for the delay in replying, but I was out of the country for the first months of this year and today I am off again, for four more months which will however take me