Testimony
(1961) of Auschwitz survivor Szenes
against Eichmann: The testimony of the Hungarian
Jewish witness Mrs Elisheva
Szenes at Session 53 of the
Eichmann trial, on 25 May 1961 (as
reproduced on the Nizkor website),
contains some interesting material.
"STATE
ATTORNEY BACH: What happened to the
people of that transport who arrived at
Auschwitz? WITNESS
SZENES: They went off, group by group,
to the right and to the left. I was sent
off with the group that was sent to the
side of life, and the others, as we know,
went to the gas chambers. Mengele
was standing there - he indicated to the
right or to the left. As he divided up the
groups, roughly half by half, in each of
the two directions, to the side of life
and to the side of the gas chambers -
roughly, I cannot say exactly. Q.
How do you know that one side led to life
and the other to death, to the gas
chambers? A.
They did not conceal that at all, they
made no secret of it. They said that to us
right away, when we were directed to the
side of life, the women who were there
told us. Incidentally, I met acquaintances
there. there was actually no need for gas,
since many people died in the first weeks,
even in the first days - within a few days
they perished. Q.
Do you know roughly how many persons of
the transport survived? A.
No. I cannot tell you that, since they
were transferred to various
places. Q.
To what place were you transferred from
Auschwitz? A.
I was transported as part of a group of
500 people, but within this group there
were only a few people left of those who
had come from Kistarcsa. They took us to
Fallersleben in West Germany, to a factory
for War production. Q.
Did you ultimately reach a place called
Salzwedel? A.
Yes. Ten days before the liberation, the
group was transferred to Salzwedel; but by
that time the group had already grown to
800 who had come from a death march, had
stopped at Fallersleben and were joined
together with us. Q.
Do you recall a particular incident
concerning railway waggons that arrived -
waggons full of Jewish men who came to
Salzwedel? A.
Yes. They came after us. But then they no
longer opened the doors of the
waggons. Q.
What did that mean? What was the
outcome? A.
Since the Americans only arrived ten days
later - this happened on 14 April - they
all died there in these sealed
trucks. Q.
You mentioned earlier a place called
Fallersleben. What happened there to women
who gave birth to children? A.
In Fallersleben there were two women who
gave birth to babies. At the beginning the
SS women nursed them fondly, for about
four or five days, but afterwards, they
took them away together with their
mothers. As we learned they brought them
subsequently to bergen-Belsen and to the
gas chambers."
Michael
Mills comments: SZENES describes the transport on which
she arrived being divided into two groups
of roughly equal size. That contrasts with
claims that only 10% of each transport was
selected for labour, with 90% being
gassed. The division into two equal groups
suggests separation for two different
destinations, with perhaps one group
selected for retention within the
Auschwitz-Birkenau complex and the other
for transfer to other camps - Szenes
herself was transferred. Szenes claims that the selection was
carried out by Mengele. But how does she
know who the selecting officer was? It is
likely that she had not even heard of
Mengele before her arrival at
Auschwitz-Birkenau, and she could have not
have known who the person doing the
selection was. It is possible that she was
told later by other prisoners. But it is
equally possible that she read about
Mengele after the war, and assumed that he
must have been the one who selected her.
If that is the case, this is a possible
example of witness testimony being
contaminated by what they learned
subsequently. Szenes does not say whether she was
registered and received a tatooed number.
It is possible that she was held as an
unregistered "Depot-Haeftling" pending her
transfer to a work-place. If that was the
case, then the other half of the transport
may have been the one that went through
the registration process. Szenes claims that the other group into
which the transport was divided was sent
to the gas chambers, but her grounds for
that claim appear flimsy in the extreme.
It was based purely on what the other
women in the camp told her, which may have
been purely rumour. Szenes says she met acquaintances in
the camp. I presume she is referring to
persons who reached Auschwitz-Birkenau on
earlier transports. A large proportion of the half of the
transport selected with Szenes died before
they could be transferred elsewhere,
presumably from disease, exacerbated by
semi-starvation. Some died within a few
days, which could only have been from
disease. Szenes' comment that "there was
no need for gas" suggests that the number
who died in this way was quite
considerable. Indeed, the rapid reduction
in the numbers of the Hungarian Jewish
deportees soon after their arrival at
Auschwitz-Birkenau might well be explained
by such deaths due to disease, without
having recourse to putative large-scale
extermination action on the part of the
camp administration. As Szenes says, there
was no need for gas. It is entirely
possible that the other group into which
the transport was divided was elsewhere in
the camp complex, undergoing the same
attrition. Szenes states that members of the
transport were transferred to various
places. We know that Hungarian Jews were
sent to 380 different locations, and her
testimony is consistent with that. Szenes states that she was transferred
to a factory in West Germany for war
production. Her testimony confirms that
Jews were sent to Germany for labour, and
refutes the claim that there was a ban on
importing Jewish slave labour into
Germany. Szenes states that there were gas
chambers at Bergen-Belsen, to which
mothers and babies were sent. That can
only have been a rumour that she heard,
since there were no gas chambers at
Bergen-Belsen according to the orthodox
account. This part of her testimony casts
doubt on the value of her testimony about
half the transport on which she arrived
being sent to the gas chambers at
Auschwitz-Birkenau. [Eichmann
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